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[howeird]

Disgusted with people mocking Donald Trump's hair and saying rude things about him because he succeeded where no one else has, in finally putting to bed the question of whether Obama could cough up a real birth certificate. And disgusted with Obama that after years of letting the controversy simmer, makes a speech about how we have more important things to worry about. IMHO there is nothing more important than the legality of the election of the Leader of the Free World. And it shows a tremendous lack of common sense and judgment, and a lack of transparency not to show the proof you have as soon as you are asked for it.

Trump responded to the release of the long form of Obama's birth certificate with grace and good will. And yes, the showmanship one expects from someone whose flamboyance is his trademark in the business world.

Every time I apply for a job, I am required to provide proof of my citizenship. If someone won't accept my passport, I have the notary-sealed full-form certificate which was used to obtain my passport. When I was issued my first passport, it had a copy of my birth certificate stapled in the back.

The following is strictly Devil's Advocate teasing, not to be taken as meaning I don't think Obama is my rightful President: If the "birthers" want to continue doubting, they still have two more avenues to pursue. Obama's father was a citizen of Kenya, and as such his son could have chosen Kenyan citizenship at the age of 18. I don't believe anyone has searched Kenya's records for Barak Jr.'s possible passport/citizenship papers. When his mother remarried, her husband was a citizen of Indonesia, and moved the family there, and may have adopted his step-son, in which case Obama may be a citizen of Indonesia. Again, I don't recall anyone looking into this either.

Comments

[bovil.livejournal.com]

I'm waiting to see them check George Romney's birth certificate, to prove that Mitt isn't an anchor baby.

[howeird]

Moot point, Mitt was stillborn. ;-)

[yourbob.livejournal.com]

It's always been funny (strange) how no one seems to want to see John McCain's birth certificate. He was actually NOT born in the U.S. He was born in Panama. And there really is no birth certificate for him.

But of course, he's white.

[howeird]

You missed it- he definitely does have a birth certificate, which he produced during the primaries. He was born in the Panama Canal Zone, then a territory of the United States, not in Panama, which makes him a natural-born US citizen. It does not, however, make him less of a jerk.

[yourbob.livejournal.com]

My memory was wrong, about the birth certificate. However, according to it (http://www.scribd.com/doc/9934044/John-McCain-Birth-Certificate) which I just looked up, he was actually born in Panama, not the Canal Zone.

And yes, like Obama, being born the child of a U.S. Citizen regardless of location makes him a U.S. Citizen. That's a point I've never understood the "journalists" ignoring.

But then again, McCain is white.

[howeird]

NIce try, but the hospital he was born in was the US Navy Hospital at Coco Solo submarine base, in the Canal Zone. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coco_Solo

The journalists are not ignoring it. The Constitution requires the President to be "a natural born citizen", which is usually interpreted to mean "Born in the United States".

And Obama is as white as I am, maybe more so.

[melchar.livejournal.com]

McCain was born in a military hospital to military perssonel serving in Panama. These children are always US citizens.

[lemmozine.livejournal.com]

If Obama is white, how do you account for his uncanny resemblance to Tuvok? But then, he also resembles Ross Perot's ears.

[yourbob.livejournal.com]

So the birth certificate is incorrect when it says he was born in Colon, at Colon Hospital? Or the Colon web site is incorrect when it says "Colón was surrounded by, but not part of, the former Panama Canal Zone."? (go look at it, I'm not kidding or misreading the document - it clearly states "Colon Hospital" in Colon, NOT US Navy Hospital. http://www.scribd.com/doc/9934044/John-McCain-Birth-Certificate)

McCain's PR was caught lying (okay, "being incorrect") about his being born on base. He was not, as his birth certificate clearly states. They did correct it, after some hemming and hawing (and having the birth certificate presented as evidence of their lie).

If the powers that be want to interpret "natural born" as only including those born on U.S. Soil (or a military base), McCain is not natural born. I don't interpret it that way so I for one, have never doubted his legal ability to be elected President because he was born a U.S. Citizen by right of parentage. But if one believes "natural born" to apply only to those born on the soil, then again, McCain is not natural born. But then, McCain is white, so the birthers don't give a crap.

[yourbob.livejournal.com]

McCain was NOT born in a military hospital. He was born in Colon Hospital in PANAMA. Go look at his birth certificate.

[howeird]

Look closer at the certificate. Bottom left. Below Colon Hospital.

[melchar.livejournal.com]

According to a cursory google check, this was a military base, under the US control at the time:
http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2008/02/28/does-john-mccain-have-a-birthplace-problem/
specific quoter in article = In 1936, McCain was born at the Coco Solo Air Base, in the then-American controlled Panama Canal Zone (pictured), to Jack McCain, a Navy officer, and Roberta McCain.

...now my internet fu is not mighty, but the links I saw related to the issue seemed to agree on this point.