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Following up on something [livejournal.com profile] caprine posted on FB, taking a very different angle.

"...women are not machines you put kindness tokens into until sex falls out."
is the operative line from a post she had linked to. And I disagree with everything in that line except the word "machines". Experience and observation has shown me that most people will reward enough kindness tokens with sex. But there is a catch or three. If there is no chemistry, there will be no physics. Too many tokens offered too soon may backfire. Offering the wrong tokens can be fatal. And the reward may not be sex, it may be some other form of appreciation.

Let me tell you a story.

I was early for rehearsals (this was many years ago) and the theater was empty, so I sat down at the piano in the wings and started plunking out The Minute Waltz. One of the women in the cast walks by, sits on the piano bench beside me and says something like "is there anything you aren't good at?"  The next thing I knew we were dating.


Apparently being able to play piano was one key to her puzzle. Acting and singing were probably in there too, since that's how she met me. And I was not trying to solve the puzzle - she was a 2-time runner-up for Miss California, I thought she was out of my league.





Date: 2012-10-01 05:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yourbob.livejournal.com
Animals are machines. So are plants for that matter. Your premise of what a machine is is incorrect. Or at the very least you're forgetting that given the exact same stimuli, eg a ringing bell, the exact same respnse happens, eg salivating.

Because animals are highly complex machines, there are huge numbers of variables that can affect the response - did the dog just get fed? Is it dehydrated so can't muster saliva? Has there been another program instituted?

Think of the systems you work with and how many variables you have to work with. How could the results change with one intermittent connection on one circuit? Then scale that to millions of circuits each with dozens or more _ways_ it could "fray".

But all things being mostly equal, the dog salivates no matter who rings the bell. And the girl is attracted to a fancier car or more pleasant talk, or whatever.

Date: 2012-10-02 12:57 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Then the dozens of researchers and students around the world using different breeds and even different species that have replicated Pavlov's work actually didn't?

Sorry. Nope.

In this case you're dictionary is wrong. A machine is defined as something that does work -elementary school mechanics. A lever, a ramp, and a screw are the simplest of machines and none of those have to be constructed.

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