Hope for some sort of progress towards a less bone-headed way of changing governments?
You seem to be saying that it's not worth bothering to notice because those people are always doing that. I can't work out whether you think that's because they're foreigners, or because of their religion, or indeed whether you're just saying that to provoke an argument. Whichever it is, I think you're wrong.
I'm just being my cynical self and pointing out that even those who remember history are doomed to repeat it. After I posted it, I perused my memory for other popular revolutions which overthrew the incumbents, and here's what I came up with: USA : Win France: Win India: Win Russia: Lose Cuba: Lose China: Lose Iraq: Lose Spain: Hmmm. I don't really know how Spain got to be a parliamentary monarchy. Vietnam: Mostly Fail Cambodia: Chillingly Total fail (which the Vietnamese army put an end to, later helped by UN diplomacy) East Germany: Win Philippines: Mostly win
I know there have been some South American countries which have become democratic, but I can't recall any which got that way via popular revolt, they seem to have arrived there through a series of coups which eventually opted for elections.
I expect there are other examples in both directions.
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Date: 2009-06-22 07:14 am (UTC)You seem to be saying that it's not worth bothering to notice because those people are always doing that. I can't work out whether you think that's because they're foreigners, or because of their religion, or indeed whether you're just saying that to provoke an argument. Whichever it is, I think you're wrong.
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Date: 2009-06-22 03:25 pm (UTC)USA : Win
France: Win
India: Win
Russia: Lose
Cuba: Lose
China: Lose
Iraq: Lose
Spain: Hmmm. I don't really know how Spain got to be a parliamentary monarchy.
Vietnam: Mostly Fail
Cambodia: Chillingly Total fail (which the Vietnamese army put an end to, later helped by UN diplomacy)
East Germany: Win
Philippines: Mostly win
I know there have been some South American countries which have become democratic, but I can't recall any which got that way via popular revolt, they seem to have arrived there through a series of coups which eventually opted for elections.
I expect there are other examples in both directions.
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Date: 2009-06-22 11:19 pm (UTC)